What Is Windows 10 LTSB? Should You Run It? How to Get It?

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

ISO 2GB. The enterprise version is targeted mainly for IT Pros and enterprise-level c us tomers. But everyone with a Microsoft ID Hotmail, live. If you want to create installation media from that ISO : Click this link to download a tool from Microsoft which you can us e to create the bootable installation media from that ISO – tool works for Windows 7, 8 and Videos you watch may be added to the TV’s watch history and influence TV recommendations.

To avoid this, …. Then extract it and run Add-Store. Microsoft Store We will explore its peculiarities, functionality, how to download it and us e it in your preferr Travel Details: As part of the SAC channel, Microsoft releases new Windows 10 build twice a year in spring and in autumn — these are the builds Windows 10 , , , , , , etc. Download one of the following according to your computer architecture.

Download Windows 10 Version 21H1 bit. The setup assisted by a script is very fast, but updating takes a considerable amount of time. Whenever I hear someone telling me they ” do not see how you have such a big issue” with anything, I totally get it. They don’t see it because they don’t have to work in the environment we work. So they don’t understand it, and naturally they don’t see what the issue is. When that happens, maybe, just maybe, I’ll believe Microsoft has a clue on what is required for the enterprise.

Yeah I can agree with that however the SAC version is based on the full edition. It would be cool if they did create a combo of the two where you did have the benefits of SAC but with the commercial apps like Xbox and weather removed. But not enough demand or a market space for that type of product.

I’m recommending an evaluation of LTSC for programs I’m the security manager over and I have a question that I hope the community would address.

How is the backwards compatibility of LTSC? For example, if I’m using hardware from or earlier will support the hardware? If you are using hardware from you are in bigger trouble anyway! Regardless what the bad guys say, here is the only one truth: Windows 10 any edition only works on SSD drives! Well, because it was designed that way. For example to supply water you have to use copper or plastic pipes.

They designed for that. You cannot use paper pipes – they will melt in seconds. Same here: if you still use HDD – your Windows 10 won’t work well. It will work, but much worse than XP or Win 7. Besides, please try to understand one thing: ALL editions of Windows 10 are the same.

Missing features. And different versions. But they are the same. And all applications works regardless. Those are time wasters and tire kickers! Those are truly bad guys! Because this way they can justify their salaries by doing nothing! Including LTSE. So now you are not limited to lousy and slow IE You can enjoy new EDGE which is absolutely best browser in the world today!

And the rest? Who use Cortana? Who needs Store? This is a first thing that any Enterprise would ban and prohibit – MS Store. Because this is a big Pandora box. I hope you know why you said you are security guy? Hope this can help Interesting how we have many computers on campus all running Windows 10 various editions on regular hard drives, not SSD drives.

We have a mixed pool of laptops from 8yr to brand new. We don’t have any problems running windows 10 on the older kit. Where I have needed drivers and there aren’t any for Windows 10, I have installed them for older operating systems and these work well.

As the older kit breaks, we scavenge any relevant components to fix the remaining laptops. A portion of our user base are very harsh on the laptops, so the older rugged machines handle this the best. When we have spare funds, we do put in a SSD but we haven’t found it necessary.

By default the LTSC edition doesn’t have the xbox apps natively installed, however you can install them. There is a “MultiLang App Update” release, which you can download from your microsoft account.

My users like Sticky Notes, Photos and couple of the other apps. I installed them from the App Update pack without any problems. First to your question, as a general rule, yes, current version of Windows 10 work on older hardware.

If you purchased a new machine in , the current version of Windows 10, if your using MS update service, has been updated to your machine, moving it forward. That is the general principal, but as in all of life, there are footnotes in small print at the bottom of the page. You mention devices as old as or older. There are driver support requirements that may be potential issues for you. That would be for Win10 regardless of LTSC or SAC, no difference there, We certainly updated 10’s of millions of devices in and that were at the time years old, so it was a common scenario, but again in general, its was the very old devices that had the higher rates if issues, not surprising.

So its likely to install and run, but cant say for sure. The OEM I’m pretty sure is no longer supporting it. Depending on how the device is being used, you will see perf impact. You did not give details on the use case , but sense you did call out your security manager, I do want to call out and be clear for you and other readers, The most secure option with Windows 10 will be SAC, and not LTSC. Both get security patches each month, but SAC editions get new security features and functionality, many targeting and or addressing the latest attack strategies.

LTSC is often, incorrectly thought to be the choice for secure, locked down devices, and that really is a SAC build, where we continue to innovate and advance the security capabilities of Windows, every 6 months.

New versions do get new security features, but also new flaws. What gives.. New versions not only get new security features, but also new features in general.

Rather large updates could also present new vulnerabilities, this is to be expected. Ever since initially looking into rolling out W10 years ago I have ached so much to be able to just use the LTSC release and get on with it. You say that the LTSC is intended for environments where use cases and requirements don’t change over time. My response to this is that empiraclly speaking, we simply don’t use any “features” of the OS itself to drive our organisation forward.

Our business needs are met by software vendors developing applications that we simply install on our base image or run via web-apps, not by the OS itself. Our security needs are catered for in our infrastructure itself and again by third party solutions. I’d also wager that this is what a majority of businesses need, nothing more than a simple platform on which they can build to their own requirements, not Microsoft’s. I welcome additional features in the name of security but there appears to be no allowing here for IT admins to make their choices and not have to feel like they’re being punished for it.

I’ve fought too much against changing behaviours in Windows 10 releases where I need to find new services to disable for performance reasons or where something I did in a Group Policy for one release is undone by another. I’ve got file associations being reset anytime a user moves to a new VM that are an absolute pain to manage. UWP replacements for stock Windows apps are no longer simple to manage because they’re “provisioned” on a per-user basis rather than just being “installed”.

I can’t get “Photos” for crying out loud to open an image for any user without staring at a blank window for seconds. The classic image viewer? I could go on and on and on.

It constantly feels like a battle with Windows 10 and I’m exhausted with it! What we’d love is to be able to use LTSC as our base image, install exactly what we need and just get on. SAC goes completely against this. You say you “don’t use any OS features”?. Pretty sure this is not actually true, let me explain, and I’ll put aside for now the end user innovations and improvements that have been added, that you your users may be missing out on.

When you do replace, add HW, do you try to acquire the best performance for price at the time its acquired? If so, your taking advantage to the Windows 10 Silicon policy, where new HW is first enabled on the current version of Windows 10, and would not be supported for example on the LTSC release.

Those are features that have been and are improved with each Windows 10 update. That is the stack that is currently the focus of development and testing by your vendors of choice, silicon, oem and os. Do you stay current with firmware updates and drivers? From things like Windows Info protection to Application Guard, you have much richer tools and better capabilities to address your security needs, again while focusing on user productivity.

But all that side. You can choose to use LTSC. While I explained above what it was designed for, customer still choose with version they choose to purchase and use. Certainly we did that a lot in the first releases, but that was a big focus through to respect and persist.

If and when it happens today, we want to know it and fix it. Thanks again , and let me know how I can help, with what ever version of Windows 10 you choose to run. I’m the only one managing clients in my organization, and we have thousands of clients with different needs and users. First off, we have not experienced a single issue with updates for as long as I can remember.

And, who are we to say what our users need? I have never told anyone about the my phone feature, yet I discovered many of our users were all over it. And, W10 is getting better, why stick with the old? From a management point of view, many mgmt features require the latest versions. You don’t need to prevent W10 from evolving, you need to evolve yourself.

No, GPO’s are not the future, and if you miss them you are only scared of changes and improvements. Why am I writing this? Simply because it’s clear the desktop OS is becoming less and less relevant – most of our users are just working in the cloud on whatever they have at home.

We have a few legacy apps finance, why is it always finance!? So perhaps instead of adding more and more features to Windows 10 and poo-pooing people who are using LTSC, MS should be thinking about a lightweight, easy to service, image of Windows aimed at users who spend most of their time in the web browser not the desktop OS.

By the way – big kudos to the Edge team – from hating the original version I’m really liking the new Chromium-based Edge, ‘Profiles’ are invaluable. So, you say the OS is irrelevant, all is web, Chrome book is great, and then go on to say the experience is best on desktop, Windows then Mac. Truth is, the OS does matter. The OS is the thing tieing the experiences together. Chrome OS was supposed to be a web OS, because all you need is web. But it’s not.

Because, web alone is not enough. And if you do feel it is, the feel free to use web only. But if you need the OS, then use the propper and intended OS.

The LTSC was made with a particular user case in mind, and that is not user computers. How long would Windows be a thing if Windows did not evolve? Sure, for some LTSC is a must have, for most its not. If your users don’t need the OS, give them thin terminals. If they need the OS, give them the best experience. That is not LTSC. As I see it, it is my job to give them this with as little hassle as possible. Sitting back with my feet on the desk running LTSC is not what’s best for my users.

I prefer LTSC because it does not change substantially over time and precisely because of all of the things that are missing from it Edge, Microsoft Store, Cortana, OneNote, and other modern apps.

Howdy, I am developer in a corporate environment. No problems at all. I have not been hindered in anyway by LTSC. Therefore, I cannot confirm any limitations so stated in the parent article. I am very grateful that my orgnization is legally allowed to license LTSC Rich it is vastly superior to other versions and all of the more recent versions have been plagued with varying degrees of problems. LTSC is what normal Windows 10 should be.

It is extremely unfortunate that it is not readily available to all consumers as an alternative to the bloated and unstable versions they are expected to tolerate.

So I installed it into my Mac Pro Bootcamp partition in early summer this year. I am kind of dismayed by the lack of updates for what to me, appears to be a superior version of Windows One without the “Windows Store”, if I want to run it that way.

Actually, I found a script that added the store back in, so I can use most of my paid store apps. But no “Cortana”, I think the update for Cortana in was excellent, much more friendly. In my situation, I use Windows to drive workstations for Audio and Video editing, so I don’t want a lot of excess junk gobbling up resources.

Because I need every byte of memory available and I need to keep my system drive lean, as sometimes I am limited to GB partitions. I still have LTSC installed, but it has not updated to much newer than At some point, I may want to officially get this build, it is so much better for me.

My question is, how exactly do I do that? And, are there any major updates coming down the pipe, I had read that one was coming in Fall I can’t remember the source for that though. The whole purpose of LTSC is so it doesn’t update to new feature packs and removes store and other stuff you wouldn’t want in the image.

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Enabling Remote Work. Small and Medium Business. Humans of IT. Green Tech. MVP Award Program. A security baseline is a group of Microsoft-recommended configuration settings and explains their security impact. The new security baseline for Windows 10 version has been published.

You can still get to the app in all the usual ways — simply ask Cortana to open Windows Security Center WSC or interact with the taskbar icon. The WSC service now requires antivirus products to run as a protected process to register. Products that have not yet implemented this will not appear in the Windows Security Center user interface, and Microsoft Defender Antivirus will remain enabled side-by-side with these products.

It will now dynamically size the categories on the main page if more room is needed for extra info. We also updated the title bar so that it will use your accent color if you have enabled that option in Color Settings. This security policy setting determines whether the username is displayed during sign in. The setting only affects the Other user tile.

You can quickly take action on threats from this screen:. Windows Autopilot is a deployment tool introduced with Windows 10, version and is also available for Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC and later versions. Windows Autopilot provides a modern device lifecycle management service powered by the cloud to deliver a zero touch experience for deploying Windows Using Intune, Autopilot now enables locking the device during provisioning during the Windows Out Of Box Experience OOBE until policies and settings for the device get provisioned, thereby ensuring that by the time the user gets to the desktop, the device is secured and configured correctly.

You can also apply an Autopilot deployment profile to your devices using Microsoft Store for Business. When people in your organization run the out-of-box experience on the device, the profile configures Windows based on the Autopilot deployment profile you applied to the device. IT Pros can use Autopilot Reset to quickly remove personal files, apps, and settings. A custom login screen is available from the lock screen that enables you to apply original settings and management enrollment Azure Active Directory and device management so that devices are returned to a fully configured, known, IT-approved state and ready to use.

For more information, see Reset devices with Autopilot Reset. The GPT partition format is newer and enables the use of larger and more disk partitions. It also provides added data reliability, supports additional partition types, and enables faster boot and shutdown speeds. For more information, see DISM operating system uninstall command-line options.

You can now run your own custom actions or scripts in parallel with Windows Setup. Setup will also migrate your scripts to next feature release, so you only need to add them once. For more information, see Run custom actions during feature update. It is also now possible to run a script if the user rolls back their version of Windows using the PostRollback option. Portions of the work done during the offline phases of a Windows update have been moved to the online phase.

This has resulted in a significant reduction of offline time when installing updates. For more information, see We’re listening to you. SetupDiag is a new command-line tool that can help diagnose why a Windows 10 update failed. SetupDiag works by searching Windows Setup log files. When searching log files, SetupDiag uses a set of rules to match known issues. In the current version of SetupDiag there are 53 rules contained in the rules. The rules. If you have shared devices deployed in your work place, Fast sign-in enables users to sign in to a shared Windows 10 PC in a flash!

However, you can enroll devices running LTSC to plan for an upgrade to a semi-annual channel release. Upgrade Readiness helps you ensure that applications and drivers are ready for a Windows 10 upgrade. The solution provides up-to-date application and driver inventory, information about known issues, troubleshooting guidance, and per-device readiness and tracking details.

The Upgrade Readiness tool moved from public preview to general availability on March 2, The development of Upgrade Readiness has been heavily influenced by input from the community the development of new features is ongoing. Upgrade Readiness provides insights into application and driver compatibility issues. New capabilities include better app coverage, post-upgrade health reports, and enhanced report filtering capabilities. For more information, see Manage Windows upgrades with Upgrade Readiness.

Update Compliance helps you to keep Windows 10 devices in your organization secure and up-to-date. Update Compliance is a solution built using OMS Log Analytics that provides information about installation status of monthly quality and feature updates. Details are provided about the deployment progress of existing updates and the status of future updates.

Information is also provided about devices that might need attention to resolve issues. New capabilities in Update Compliance let you monitor Windows Defender protection status, compare compliance with industry peers, and optimize bandwidth for deploying updates. Maintaining devices is made easier with Device Health, a new, premium analytic tool that identifies devices and drivers that crash frequently and might need to be rebuilt or replaced.

For more information, see Monitor the health of devices with Device Health. For more information about accessibility, see Accessibility information for IT Professionals. In the Feedback and Settings page under Privacy Settings you can now delete the diagnostic data your device has sent to Microsoft.

You can also view this diagnostic data using the Diagnostic Data Viewer app. If you wish to take advantage of Kiosk capabilities in Edge , consider Kiosk mode with a semi-annual release channel. The OS uninstall period is a length of time that users are given when they can optionally roll back a Windows 10 update.

Using the new wizards in Windows Configuration Designer, you can create provisioning packages to enroll devices in Azure Active Directory. Azure AD join in bulk is available in the desktop, mobile, kiosk, and Surface Hub wizards.

The following new Group Policy and mobile device management MDM settings are added to help you configure Windows Spotlight user experiences:. Learn more about Windows Spotlight. Previously, the customized taskbar could only be deployed using Group Policy or provisioning packages.

Additional MDM policy settings are available for Start and taskbar layout. New MDM policy settings include:. By enrolling devices in Azure AD, you increase the visibility of feedback submitted by users in your organization — especially on features that support your specific business needs.

For details, see Windows Insider Program for Business. For more information, see Windows Insider Program for Business. With changes delivered in Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC , Express updates are now fully supported with Microsoft Endpoint Configuration Manager, starting with version of Configuration Manager, as well as with other third-party updating and management products that implement this new functionality.

The above changes can be made available to Windows 10, version , by installing the April cumulative update.

 
 

Windows 10 enterprise ltsc 2019 vs 2016 free download

 
Jan 07,  · The next LTSC release, Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC is available for Download today! In keeping with the previous Long-Term Servicing Channel releases, this release will have the same features as the Windows 10 Semi-Annual Channel release made available at the same time – with the usual exceptions (including apps that are often updated with additional functionality, including the . Apr 13,  · Now, double-click the tool to open it. Connect a USB flash drive to your PC and download Windows 10 LTSC Enterprise ISO from the section above. In the Home Page of Rufus, click the option “Create a Bootable USB Drive.”. Now, select ISO Image by using the “Browse” option and select “Next.”.Estimated Reading Time: 6 mins. Windows 10 LTSC Enterprise ISO Free Download (bit & bit) Travel Details: Apr 13, · Now, double-click the tool to open it. Connect a USB flash drive to your PC and download Windows 10 LTSC Enterprise ISO from the section above. In the Home Page of Rufus, click the option “Create a .

 

Windows 10 enterprise ltsc 2019 vs 2016 free download

 

Windows 10 introduced Windows as a service, a method of continually providing new features and capabilities through regular feature updates.

Semi-Annual Channel versions of Windows, such as version , version , and version 20H2, are released twice per year. Each of these products was designed to have a year support lifecycle, as outlined in our lifecycle documentation. Windows 10 Client LTSC will change to a 5-year lifecycle, aligning with the changes to the next perpetual version of Office. This change addresses the needs of the same regulated and restricted scenarios and devices. Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC is meant for specialty devices and scenarios that simply cannot accept changes or connect to the cloud, but still require a desktop experience: regulated devices that cannot accept feature updates for years at a time, process control devices on the manufacturing floor that never touch the internet, and specialty systems that must stay locked in time and require a long-term support channel.

Through in-depth conversations with customers, we have found that many who previously installed an LTSC version for information worker desktops have found that they do not require the full year lifecycle.

With the fast and increasing pace of technological change, it is a challenge to get the up-to-date experience customers expect when using a decade-old product. Where scenarios do require 10 years of support, we have found in our conversations that these needs are often better solved with Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC.

Our guidance has not changed: Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC is designed for specialty devices, and not information workers.

For consistency for those customers, we are aligning the lifecycle of the two products. We are not changing the lifecycle of the LTSC versions that have been previously released. This change only impacts the next version of Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC, scheduled to be released in the second half of the calendar year. The two operating systems are binary equivalents but are licensed differently.

You can learn about the different Windows for IoT editions, and for which scenarios each edition is optimized in the Windows for IoT documentation.

Check it out today! Continue the conversation. Find best practices. Visit the Windows Tech Community. Stay informed. So let me get this straight Microsoft has always quite explicitly discouraged the use of it as a daily driver for information workers specifically because of the lack of OS servicing, ongoing silicon support, etc.

In what world does this make sense? Also I would encourage Joe Lurie and the team to make it easier to get support. If LTSC gets now 5 years is it split into half so 2. This is very disappointing. For those that deal with regulated and specialty equipment you understand that our vendors do not adapt that quickly and we the customers are left to deal with EOL OS’. If Microsoft is going down this road to shorten the life from 10 to 5 years they really need to do a better job partnering with the suppliers that provide equipment controlled by Windows.

In the end it doesn’t matter whether five years or ten years. We have a tape robot by Sun in our data center. Anybody here who remembers who and what was Sun? This tape robot runs very well, so why should we replace it. It runs with Windows Using an operating system that runs out of support by the origin publisher is never a good idea for such devices. The control machines are standard workstations and the hardware must be replaced every five years.

So I know some old-fashioned people at our institute who would like to stay on Windows XP forever will be disappointed. But in the end the change it will not really make i difference for us. Joe Lurie I understand the points you’ve made, but I’m confused on the ultimate reasoning behind knocking down the support lifetime. I swear I’m not trying to argue just to argue, I want to understand Microsoft’s logic is all. But the former has 10 years of support, the latter gets 5 years.

So this halving of support seems unfair and arbitrary, even more so when this very article implies that customers misusing LTSC is the entire reasoning behind the decision:. Our support lifecycle decisions are based on direct and in-depth feedback from our customers. Joe Lurie will licensing become more flexible for the win10 iot enterprise version? Today that specific flavor is only sold to a few select resellers. I manage specialty devices for an enterprise. I understand the desire to limit enterprises from deploying LTSC to the office environment but Microsoft does a poor job of understanding the specialty uses for windows.

Tammy You’ve hit the nail on the head of why I’m being critical of this decision. Right now we have Enterprise LTSC running digital signage, self-service kiosks, machines that control mass spectrometers and NMR in labs, and various medical devices in our health center.

But until we have more info on such plans or lack thereof, “just use IoT” is easier said than done. Which makes the answers here all the more patronizing, frankly In the mean time, the net result for us as an organization is that future Enterprise LTSC releases just got their support halved for no valid reason. Also, it is too costly to expect us to have to replace process control equipment every 5 years.

We hope Microsoft comes to their senses and reverses this decision in time for the next LTSC version. You can install Windows 10 Enterprise semi-annual channel on the devices in your infrastructure that the IW uses, and LTSC on the specialized devices all with the same license.

AngryJohnny75 Thanks for that feedback. Along with the other feedback we’ve received here I’ll be brining this back to our product group. In your scenario, yes, staying on LTSC is probably the best solution for you. Joe Lurie , thanks for your prompt response. To be perfectly clear, since LTSC has only 5 years of support – we see no valid reason for adopting this new version whatsoever. For new information worker desktops, we will continue to deploy Windows 10 SAC as originally instructed by Microsoft.

But as others have already mentioned – we find the current distribution and licensing of IoT to be extremely constraining therefore making deployment of IoT limited and impractical in most cases. AngryJohnny75 we will have issues with the fact that LTSC only supports up to 10th generation intel, right? If we have to get them from an IOT vendor it will force many orgs to do purchasing rounds with increased costs as result. Worse is the loss of flexibility. A License bought through Dell for example can’t be moved to an HP.

That will also increase license and operational costs. The use case here is a desktop used as kiosk machine and the need for the kiosk goes away – the desktop gets reimaged with standard enterprise making it org standard and freeing that ltsc license. The next day a new kiosk need arises in an office miles away. Today you would take a spare usable desktop at that office and reimage it with the ltsc image and done.

With IoT you now must have machines of both types standard and IoT in store and you as result again will have increased costs for logistics. Also: With a 10 year support cycle and a three year release cycle you can get 9 years out of your LTSC build with a year for dev and deployment. With a 5 year support and 3 year release, you will have to reimage for every release once again increasing operational costs a lot.

Is this is a way to go? It still means costs and downtime on that box regardless of how you do it. If you have to do it three times it costs 3X as much as doing it once Since 10 year support only will apply to IoT not to standard OEM you must get the IoT version and none of my vendors can supply it without selling it as a part of a HW – Can you buy it as a license only?

The concern here is how do we maintain 10 year support by obtaining LTSC IoT licenses that can be transferred between hardware manufacturers. Windows 7 got updates to support new hardware over teh years. Windows 10 LTSC f. Sooner or later the available hardware on the market changes. So what shell I do with an operating system what have support for 10 years but after four, five or even seven years there is no hardware I can install it on? Maybe some people have special hardware what will be sold an supported over such a long time but I’m in doubt that this is the case for the most of us.

But we believe that we must change to a newer version of Windows 10 LTSC before the support for ends because of the hardware problem. Barbara Joost the situation is even worse based on your scenario. LTSC does only support the hardware available at release. But sooner or later Dell must follow the change in the CPU architecture in the technical world around. At this point we must change to a newer version of LTSC too in the case we buy new machines.

I’m sure this will not take 10 years. This will happen earlier. So it makes not so much sens in my eyes to support an LTSC over 10 years. Do we have a better date on availability than just second half of ? I run a department at a college and we can’t have a semi annual upgrades wreck software, so LTSC is what I’ve been using with our E5 license.

I’m at the point where the software wants the newer features, but postponing a Windows feature upgrade for X months is still not a workable solution.

LTSC is the best way forward for me since my licensing allows me to use it. It is time that I start working on new images in preparation for the Summer work to get everything ready for the Fall semester.

In my experience most people I met are upset about the SAC because they still do manual images, sysprep and all the stuff as they did ever since. Tammy Thanks, I guess that didn’t click. Might be an issue and I guess I’ll find out in the next few months when I log in and check for a download.

It would be sad to see this option go because there are a lot of places that aren’t connected to internet, etc. We work on a hardware cycle every 5-ish years, so the new term isn’t a big deal to me. But sometime I need to get with the current times and set up something like MDM.